Tuesday, 30 December 2008
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Genuine Hostility? Or Pathetic Way of Keeping Me in His Life?
This is a guest blog submitted by Riot_Grl19.More often than not, I find myself astonished at the idiocy of how some people deal with certain situations that life throws at them - of course, I'm not perfect by any means (in fact, the following story proves this)...but in some instances, it's hard to see any use of common sense in a person's decision whatsoever. The most frequent reason that our common sense gets the backseat while insanity gets shotgun? When the sneaky and ever powerful heart decides to throw a monkey wrench into our brain's logic...RELATIONSHIPS!
My own case of heart induced stupidity began way back at the beginning of May, when I unexpectedly met an adorably funny and cute guy that I immediately fell head-over-heels for. Actually, thinking back on it now, I didn't just fall for him...I did a full-on FACEPLANT. Unfortunately for me, he had just gotten out of a long-term relationship and was upfront about not wanting a relationship "right now". While my brain screamed that he was leading me on, my heart just couldn't imagine ending things so soon. For a month, we would hang out/hook up and Facebook the bejeezus out of each other.
He even initiated text conversations almost every day that would last long periods of time. I was naive and very inexperienced with boys and relationships at the time, so I felt like I had hit the jackpot - not only would he tell me how beautiful I was or discuss future dates, but he always would text me, asking if I missed him or how he could help make my bad week better. However, it was when he left for a week-long vacation that things came crashing down.
He had mentioned to me that his ex was still in love with him, but I never dreamed that it would lead to her best friend calling me out on Facebook, of all places, for being a "skank." Well, because I liked him enough to not want to alienate his friends, I messaged her and told her what a far-fetched view she had of me and how I hoped to meet her one day to prove that I was a decent girl. This was the beginning of many interesting messages, to say the least, which opened my eyes to the fact that this guy had been telling his ex and her friend what a "dumb mistake" I was and claimed that I tried to contact him all the time even though he refused to respond.
Another gem? Apparently, he and his ex were still hooking up and therefore, "somewhat involved." I was upset beyond reason and we exchanged several angry text messages before he began to ignore me altogether. So imagine my surprise when he returned home and pretended that nothing was wrong! Now I was not only upset, but confused as well. Because I had always been close with his guy friends as well, I began hanging out with them and venting my frustration - get ready for my moment of extreme stupidity - and in a moment of drunken sadness and vulnerability, I ended up hooking up with his best friend. Now I know how awful this sounds, and I get a lot of crap from my guy friends about how I supposedly did it "for revenge," etc. But this was not the only tough thing going on in my life at the time and I simply got drunk and wanted to feel cared about - I even resisted before giving in, OK?! This had much more to do with low self-esteem than revenge.
Let's just say that this is where the shit definitely hit the fan...at FULL speed. His best friend wasted no time in bragging about my moment of weakness to him, and I got a text that day in which he claimed he couldn't be friends with me, not for hooking up with his BFF, but for venting about him. Huh? In my shock, I ended up sending him a long apology letter that explained how upset he had made me feel and how much I truly cared about him. Not only was I ignored, but he began to blatantly insult me on our mutual friends' Facebook walls.
After realizing that it was irreparable, I began the long and treacherous quest to move on - unfortunately, it's a lot harder to move on when the guy is still harrassing you at every opportunity. For four long months, I was faced with prank phone calls (sometimes at 2 a.m.), nasty text messages, insulting wall posts (on mutual friends' walls), convincing our mutual friend that I talked behind her back, telling people I had "mental problems" or that I was a "whore," creating degrading nicknames for me, even going so far as to pose as another person to talk to me online! All while we both saw other people. Though I fought back several times, tried to be nice, ignored him and yet he continued this harrassment until I finally gave him an ultimatum: either meet with me to discuss our problems or have me get a restraining order.
A couple months of silence later, we ran into each other at several parties and have resumed a tentative friendship. I haven't forgotten how hurtful he was, but I also can't seem to shake this feeling that he goes out of his way to get me to notice him. I often find him staring at me from across the room or purposefully hanging out with me to joke around and teasing me about my (now ex-) boyfriend. He even loudly cheered for me during a game and has gotten into a fight with his ex about me at a party! I don't understand it! Is this a classic case of elementary school flirting, where hitting someone was a sign that they liked you? Or the Pride and Prejudice story of two people's hatred for one another becoming something much more?
Have you ever claimed to despise someone so intensely, but still find yourself going out of your way to make them notice you? Do you think his repulsive antics were the result of caring about me much more than he let on? Or is he simply an immature psychopath?
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Comments (49)
wow. this is basically my story, too, except for the months of harassment. even i don't know if it was real or fake anger.
P.S. "Have you ever claimed to despise someone so intensely, but still find yourself going out of your way to make them notice you?"
YES.
whether he cares for you deep down or not, that doesnt erase his hateful acts toward you. dont waste your time on somebody that you almost got a restraining order for!
Wow that's a really tough situation. Though I don't really know what kind of advice to give you...I would suggest laying low with him for a while. If I were you in this case I would feel completely humiliated,angered, betrayed and all those other fun emotions. Reason being he just kinda trashed talked you and then just kept pushin' your buttons to see how far he could get...and thats pretty low. I gues in my opinion he doesn't deserve your time. It seems as if he is a shady guy.
I guess the real question is can you see yourself having a future with him? And if so, with his given traits and personality say 5 years down the line could he get better or worse? And if for the worse...could you tolerate it?
Goodluck!!
i agree with above. he did those nasty things to you and hurt you in so many ways. you don't need someone like him in your life. you deserve so much better!
That guy is just a douchebag. Simply put. Leading you on, talking about you behind your back (when you can obviously read them on other people's walls), and altogether calling you names is a fine example of a guy who can't get his life straightened out and never has the balls to back any of his actions up. It's a good thing you never gotten into a relationship with him, or otherwise, much more shit would have clogged that fan.
As for me right now, 2 years ago, I had a guy who I thought was my friend stab me in the back and when I confronted him about his actions, which I heard from my ex (since the actions was done with my ex), he lied to me and began calling my ex a "whore", "skank" and other names you would believe. I'm no longer friends with him and my ex and I are still best friends since we know we are always honest with each other. HOWEVER, the guy that I defriended... well, it turns out that he's my girlfriend's cousin. And sooner or later, I would have to sit in a room with him for more than an hour. But it's okay. Some of her siblings actually don't like him either.
seems like he needs to grow up. he's like the little kid that teases the girl that he likes. if he wants to be with you, then he should just say how he feels and get over it, instead of hanging around insulting you. if he doesn't, then he should move on and let you move on.
He is definitely not worth it. Get a real man.
Don't waste your time on this guy who created a lot of hurt & anguish for you.. Him suddenly being friendly doesn't erase the crap he put you through. That's really extreme. You can do without him in your life. You deserve a guy who can treat you so much better than this. Cut him out & move on.. even if you feel strongly about him. He needs to man up & grow some 'cause that's NOT how you treat a lady. End of story.
He's not worth the worry. Fck him. You can do better, he played you like an idiot. Its always right when the guy can behind a girlfriend and date the ex, and the girl just ends up being called a slut. Just ignore him. Let the past go.
I agree with what SWEETxN0VEMBER said.
What he did was inexcusable.
Have you ever claimed to despise someone so intensely, but still find yourself going out of your way to make them notice you?
No, I have never done such a thing.
Do you think his repulsive antics were the result of caring about me much more than he let on? Or is he simply an immature psychopath?
Honestly, I know that it is tempting to think about his odd behavior, but take it from me and DON'T. Just move on. Any person who does horrible things to you does not deserve your respect, time, or love. Why would you want to be with someone who could be so phony and mean? The writings on the wall are crystal clear.
I would give the advice as others, but people do feel guilty. His latest actions seem to speak as his remorse. As someone said, I would lay low with him. And if he starts to pull the same things again, forget it. Go get your restraining order. I would not jump into a romantic relationship with him. Trust takes a lot of time and efforts from the other to rebuild.
Block him from FB and if your mutual friends are leaning toward siding with him, then leave them also. Get a restraining order, he sounds like trouble, period.
This guy sounds like a jerk and a half from what you've written. If I was one of your friends I'd want to give him a piece of my mind about the way he's treated you and the things he's done, actually I don't even know you and I STILL want to give him a piece of my mind.
But I totally and completely understand you. Your question about hating someone yet wanting them to notice you, I'm at that stage right now. I don't think I hate my ex-boyfriend, but I find myself wanting to run into him whenever I'm back in town just so I can see what kind of reaction he has to me because he's done a lot of shitfaced things to me the months after we broke up. I'm over him and everything and I really dislike him as person right now, but I still find myself wanting to know things about his life, etc etc.
I honestly can't tell you if he's a psychopath or if he actually cares about you, but I do suggest that if you're going to continue some sort of friendship with him to be very very careful and to not give in too quickly. I think its important you resolve ALL the issues you had with each other before hand or just drop him completely for good, but either way protect yourself because who knows he might be setting you up for another shit hitting the fan scenario.
He needs to grow up.......seriously pranks calls? gimme a break
ps.. you seem like a great girl....you can do a lot better than that and good job for sticking up for yourself and handling that situation with the random msg from ex's the best frd...good luck
he seems like a lowlife. get over it.
you on the other hand seem like a nice girl.
Wow, that sounded like my recent situation up until the "skank" part.
I know about that love-hate thing...it's so frustrating! In high school there was this guy who apparently liked me, but at the time I woudn't give him the time of day. Later I began paying more attention to him, but he'd kinda give me the cold shoulder and his extreme arrogance came out while he and I spoke. We'd have these tense conversations online, and I believed him to be a total JERK--and yet I was still so eager to talk to him, eager to see him at school, and it got to the point where we had made out with each other (twice, each instance a year apart). He wouldn't date me, and I was so angry at the fact that he was a year under me and yet so witty and such a smart alec. That kind of rivalry made me want to get his attention even more, but for the sake of my pride. He was a challenge compared to the passive guys I always seemed to attract.
I'd stay away from guys like him. He seems really immature, and considering all the crap that's happened involving that crowd of people, you'd be better off not dealing with them.
i didn't read your post,
but from what people say i'm guessing it's about some guy beating on you and you wondering what to do and stuff?
but wouldn't you be kind of surprised if somebody said to stay with him and all that stuff?
like, he's a good guy.
are you expecting that as a possability?
he sucks, drop him.
stop wasting your time.
please?
@la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga - you said it!
No matter how he feels about you, he's a psycho. Don't waste another second of your life on him.
The guy is a freaking idiot.
I've had a love-hate thing going on with someone but never to the extent in which we wanted to ruin each other's lives.
I wouldn't be so quick to give him another chance. Hell, if it were me I wouldn't give him another chance. Well I would like to believe that would be the case but I am not so sure since this story ultimately has nothing to do with me. However, I feel there is only so much I can take and everything you went through would have literally put the icing on the cake. What he did was worse than immature; it was completely hateful and spiteful even. I'd personally be very wary about trusting this person again. Don't go jumping right into a dating relationship with him for that requires a lot of trust; a lot of trust that he seriously damaged. He is going to have to learn that trust is something that is earned and that he is no exception to the rule. If you really want to try being friends again, you two need to try to resolve ALL underlying issues at hand and if you can't, drop him. He isn't worth the ground he walks upon.
You should probably ask yourself, "Is any kind of friendship you could possibly have with this guy worth salvaging? Is there anything salvageable that you can build upon? Will you two be able to move on from this experience and heal from it?"
Sorry but I'll be straight forward with you. He just enjoys the attention you give him. When he "pokes" you, why get hot headed and overreact for him to stop? The more you react to him, the more it's fun for him. Why bother with it? Move on, ignore it, trust me, it goes away.
Tentative friendship? This person degraded you to others, tried to turn friends against you, called you a whore, and verbally harrassed you for months. Would you tolerate this from one of your girlfriends? This guy is NOT your friend and he never will be. A friend is loving and supportive and has your best interests at heart. Bottom line. You will be superwoman if you can summon the strength to peace him out and leave him to his crazy ass ex girlfriend. As women I think we have this weird thing that we have to stay