Sunday, 14 December 2008
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Dear Dr. Datingish: I'm Torn Between Two People
Dr. Datingish
I'm currently in a relationship with a guy named Jake - he's really sweet and funny and we've been together for almost a year. The thing is, I've recently been pretty attracted to Ray, this other guy.I really like Jake; he makes me happy and we get along for the most part, but he can get on my nerves sometimes and we tend to fight once a week or so. I'm incredibly comfortable with him and he knows almost everything about me, so I have lots of hesitation about leaving him. I also think he would be incredibly depressed and let his grades drop, etc.
Ray and I have been friends for a couple of years, and before I was with Jake, I'd crushed on Ray a few times. We've almost gone out, but nothing has really happened between us. I really find Ray to be an incredible person, but I'm not sure if he even likes me. We're both involved in theatre, and I really look forward to seeing him .
I'm hoping my feelings for Ray will pass, but I'm not so sure it'll happen. This whole thing is really having a negative effect on my mood, and I just want to clear things up. Should I talk to Ray and see if he even has feelings for me?
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I have been in a similar position. It was a little worse than yours. I was going out with this guy for about 2 months, but then he started to get on my nerves. I was talking to his best friend a lot and we developed feelings for each other. I ended up leaving the guy I was dating for his best friend. Yeah, bad move. But ummm, if you're not completely happy with Jake, don't force yourself to stay with him just for his sake. If you think that Ray or someone else out htere is better for you, then don't hesitate too much to break up with Jake. Just be nice about it and try not to rebound too quickly after the breakup. You've gotta show some respect.
@nbdyzangel@xanga - yeah, I agreed.
It's not fair to Jake if you are having feelings for Ray. If you're not happy enough with Jake then leave him. But it sounds like you just don't know what you want and even if you got with Ray you could start having feelings for someone else. Relationships are work, so what if you fight once a week, lots of people do.
My recommendation is this, if you decide to stay with Jake maybe you should cut ties with Ray. Otherwise you just end up temping yourself and could do something stupid. You shouldn't be friends with people you are interested in.
I think you should break up only if you think the relationship is not working. Not if you have or not a cushion to fall back on. I don't want to be mean, but it sounds a bit like you are looking even though you are in a relationship.
You should be honest, if this Ray guy was not there would you still break up? Why are you with Jake?
@tequila_sky@xanga - I agree.
If Ray wasn't around, would you have any desire to break up with him at all?
And even then, the fact that something didn't happen between you and Ray before Jake was in the picture should be a good indicator of where things stand. I know you said you liked him before a few times, but even then nothing came of it so I'd say let it go.
You said it yourself - Jake does make you happy for the most part and you're not even sure about Ray so why risk a good thing you have going?
@roxics@xanga - yes I agree with roxics. You shouldn't be friends with people you are interested in.
I've been in your situation before and I did something unforgivable. In the end, I had to stop being friends with the guy I was interested in, cut ties with him completely to prevent myself from doing something stupid again.
However, if you do decide to leave Jake to see what will happen with Ray..seriously consider what you're leaving behind. You might regret the decision if in fact Jake is a better match for you. Good luck!
"Should I talk to Ray and see if he even has feelings for me?"
Would his answer matter to you? It sounds like it would based on you saying, "I really find Ray to be an incredible person, but I'm not sure if he even likes me." In that case, Jake seems like a cushion for you (like what @tequila_sky@xanga said) to fall back on in case Ray doesn't like you.
You shouldn't be asking around for another guy's opinion as to if he likes you if you're with someone else - it's not fair to Jake, and you're missing the real issue of if you want to be with Jake.
So ask yourself if you want to be with him - and I mean REALLY think about it on a gut level, not on some objective level like a grocery list (that's the feeling I get from your post), pretend that Ray isn't around, and you'll know the answer.
Do NOT(!) talk to Ray before you've broken up with Jake. That's just hurtful and rude.
So you basically have two options here:
- Break up with Jake, THEN talk to Ray
- Stay with Jake. Do your best to forget your feelings for Ray, even if that means not being friends with him any more.
Having some "backup" before you break up with someone is quite possibly the worst thing you could ever do to that person. It sounds like you respect Jake, so if you need to end things, at least treat him with respect when you do so.
you should stay with Jake. arguments in a relationship is a normal thing. Even if you ask Ray about his feelings, he might say something like "no..." since he knows you already have a bf.
Most crucial question - choose. Which one do you want? Right now, you're not being fair to either one of them. If you're with Jake and you're happy but you still wanna start something with Ray, then you probably have more feelings for Ray. But whoever you choose, you have to cut off all ties with the other person.
there is nothing you mentioned in your relationship with jake that doesn't happen in a normal relationship. i think your expectations of what a good relationship may be might be too high. if you end up with ray, you will probably complain about the same things.
oh nooo :(
I wasn't so much torn between two people as you are, but the uncertainty you get from Ray, it sucks doesn't it. The only thing I can tell you is to not make assumptions. "What if's" are always going to hover around but when you let them get to you, you don't feel so good about yourself and your decisions. No assumptions! =) Ask him right out. It'll feel good to get it out of the way.
You're being greedy, and absolutely unfair to Jake. If you're still interested in Ray then you need to not hold Jake on standby! That's such a bitchy move.
Tell Jake how you're feeling, not necessarily that there's another guy but that you're not exactly into him as much as you think is necessary for there to be a relationship.
Then when Jake is no longer in the picture go and see about Ray.
God these things should be obvious.
I was in almost this exact situation once. I'll use the names of your guys to explain. I talked to "Ray" and he said that he liked me. I also realized that since I wasn't being fair to "Jake" by letting my thoughts wander, it was time to break up with him (we had gone out for 2 years). So I broke up with "Jake", and he was very depressed for a few months. "Ray" and I fooled around a few times and then he says he doesn't want to get serious/go out with me, which upset me, because before I broke up with "Jake", "Ray" had said he had real feelings for me. I don't really know what happened.
Of course you never know what's going to happen, but I hope hearing what happened to me helps you make a decision.
wow..-_-
jake.
@roxics@xanga - I agree with you on that.
I was in a very similar situation. I've been with my bf for two years and when things between us started to change and I felt as if I was growing and changing and he wasn't, I started to like another guy ( It also maybe happened because I was away 3 months and didn't see my bf ), and I thought he was the most unbelievable human being I have ever met and he had a huge impact on me. When I came back home, I really did miss him but I realized that I really loved my boyfriend. He was everything to me, my best friend, my love, my life. And that crush I had on the other guy was fleeting. Ask yourself what I did " Who would leave a bigger hole in your life if they walked out?". Who means more to you? Feelings come and go. Love doesn't come and go. Maybe you don't love your bf, that's a different story but after a year I was really in love with mine and I never ever thought about being with anybody else.
sounds like ray is a shot in the dark. i'd stick with what you know and love, unless you find out that ray is crazy about you. then you might have a decision, but until then, i'd chill.
i was in a similar situation only like a few of the other girls on here mine was a lot worse. I was dating my boyfriend for a long time but like you and ray i had feelings for somebody that i had just pushed in the back of my mind. When he showed up trying to get back with me all of those feelings came rushing back. We started talking a lot and the guilt and confusion ruined my mood and my attitude towards my boyfriend. I ended up leaving my boyfriend and eventually things with the "other guy" didnt work out either, but in the end it opened my eyes to the fact that i shouldn't have been in the relationship in the first place. If your heart is with Ray then you have no business being with anybody else, if it's just a crush and your heart is with your boyfriend then it'll pass eventually. You say you've crushed on ray a few times so maybe this is just another one? give it time before you do anything drastic, but i would talk to ray if you 2 are good friends. :) good luck!
p.s. idk why this is hyperlinked lolThis happens. It's called LIFE.
Just because you enter into a monogamous relationship (which by definition is not going to be perfect), does not mean that any other attractive prospects will cease existing.
I recommend either 1) breaking up with your boyfriend, because it sounds like you're not mature enough for a serious relationship, or 2) staying away from Ray for awhile, to let your feelings subside in respect for your boyfriend. And in the meantime, use that extra time to pay more attention to your own boyfriend and relationship, and reflect on what it is that makes you feel good about him.
Wow, what you're doing sounds pretty shady. If you're already out looking for a new relationship, you should have broken up with this other guy a long time ago. What you're doing now isn't fair to him.
How would YOU feel if you were dating someone, thinking everything was going well, and behind the scenes they were crushing on, talking to, meeting other people? No physical cheating, but no committment to you. You'd been duped. Think about that and decide what you'd like someone to do for you.
I'm actually in the complete opposite position.
I'm the "other" girl..
Be fair to them, really take a look back and figure out who you really want. Don't string them both along. It isn't fair
good luck.
Honestly, I hate these questions. I really, really do.
Figure it out for yourself. Talk to people who actually know you and these people about it. Random strangers on the internet can only gather so much information and form opinions based upon the brief synopsis these posts give.
I put my boyfriend through a situation like this, and you know what? It was absolute shit. If Jake isn't giving you something that you think Ray can, either a) talk to Jake about it or b) break up with Jake. Under no circumstances should you string them both along.
Emotional cheating is still cheating, and it still hurts like a fucking bitch for everyone involved, whether or not it escalates to full-fledged cheating.
You are with Jake for a reason. If it's nothing more than convenience, you're a selfish bitch. If it's because you truly care about him, you wouldn't want to fuck up your relationship. Figure out which one is more important and get on with your life, regardless of who is in it.
You asked if the readers had been in a similar situation. I was "Jake". You have incited a rage that has ceased my rational thought process. It is taking more restraint than you will ever know to not find "Jake" and tell him what kind of person I think you are.
@roxics@xanga - Yes, too nice but yes.
@la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga -Better, a little harsher.
@Rica@xanga - Again a little too nice, but I like the "in the other person's shoes" perspective
@AnonymousBlonde@xanga - Almost perfect, not enough name calling or profanity though and a bit pc. I especially liked the emotional cheating comment and the selfish bitch comment.
@Not_a_real_site@xanga - Yeah, I try not to be too profane, even if I REALLY want to. I've always been the person on the other side of this spectrum that ends up hurt, so it naturally incites some rage in me, too. Don't worry, friend. There are decent people out there who won't put you through this shit.