Saturday, 20 September 2008

  • Compromising In Relationships - What Would You Give Up?

    Mr. Giraffe

    My sister is dating a vegetarian. And I have no problems with vegetarians - I can respect that choice. My sister's boyfriend is a good guy. He's funny, respectful to my parents, smart and successful. Sure, he did call me fat twice but he was joking and I started the joke anyway.

    The only problem is that around him, my sister is a vegetarian. I would see no problem with this except before she met him and even for a year or so after, my sister was a major carnivore. She enjoyed steak, chicken, lamb et cetera, et cetera. But when she's not around him, she eats like she used to.

    I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to react. I'm not exactly sure what her boyfriend has done for her. He's still a Giants fan; she's a Redskins one. My sister took the M.D. bar exam but he wants to move back to NY to be with his family (What about us? Well, I'm in NY already, but still).

    Do all relationships require someone to renounce something they once loved? What would you give up for your SO?

Comments (53)

  • XxNoLifeKing_AlucardxX@xanga

    Life and relationships are about making sacrifices. In this case though, it seems like your sister is putting more effort and sacrificing more than her bf. In my case, there are certain things that I will give up for my SO(the right person/wife), but there are certain thigns that she'll have to understand me on. I can't give everything if she's not willing to accept at least some of it that are truly important.


    Keep on Swingin'

  • eternal_dreaming@xanga

    I plan on moving next year to be closer to my boyfriend. We're currently in a long distance relationship & we both know that in order to make it work, we're going to have to make some sacrifices. Since he has a family business where he's at, I'll be the one to close the gap. We've talked about it & it stinks for me 'cause I'll be leaving all my family & friends in NYC for life down south. This is why we decided that I shouldn't move right after college 'cause it'd be asking too much. There will definitely be more bumps along the road but we're committed to making this work & we both plan on making the sacrifices needed. Like people say, relationships are about making sacrifices. :)

    However, I won't be giving up my favorite baseball team.. EVER. That's not a problem either as our teams are in different leagues. :) [NY Yankess & ATL Braves] All other sports teams, I follow his home teams, probably because I watch sports with him & have picked up a fondness for his teams.. except for maybe football. I don't have a preference. But these are trivial things.. & not really a "big" dealbreaker in my mind/our relationship. Where you plan to spend the rest of your life is.. that might be why some of my friends worry about my decision. But when you know, you just know & no one can stop you from doing what you want to do.

  • Ackthp@xanga

    I think that compromise is an absolute necessity in any given relationship...but leading a double life (not to over-dramatize things) is another story entirely. How is she going to pull off that balancing act long-term? In my experience, dealbreakers come in all shapes and sizes, and have a tendency to pile up in one's mind on bad days. Eventually, we are all forced to make choices, some of them very difficult. 

  • GaMeGurLsH@xanga

    Most couples make compromises. You may not notice the things that he's compromised for her. Takes two to tango.

  • harmonyminusmelody@xanga

    i would do anything for her. i would probably turn down a job if it took me away from her or put her somewhere she didn't want to be, like a big city. cause she wants to be a teacher and she would never want to teach in a big city school. also, i would probably skip studying abroad because it would take me away from her - far away - for far too long. i just wouldn't enjoy something like that if i was so far away from my baby, and that's the point of it - to be enjoyable. 

  • wolvenchic@xanga

    that sounds like something she did for his comfort, did she say he made an issue of it? Does he cook or does she?

    I think compromises are done alot, sometimes as small as biting your tounge when needed, other things are done out of courtesy

  • porcelainx27@xanga

    @harmonyminusmelody@xanga - Same here.


    I'd give up everything for him, anything he asked for, and he'd do the same for me.


    There is a limit though, I mean, when you're compromising to the point where you can't be yourself, well, that's a whole other story. That's not a healthy relationship.


    Unless of course, "yourself" means "asshole", because in that case, every compromise you can fucking think of should be made to alter that.

  • kaleidescopeeyes88@xanga

    I was just in a relationship with a vegetarian, and that sort of compromise was never a problem.  He never would have judged me if I were to eat meat in his presence, and I didn't mind making going out to eat easier by being vegetarian when I was around him.  There were other compromises that I didn't mind, either, like sleeping at his place because his dog was there or spending most evenings staying in.  And had our relationship lasted, I anticipated myself making larger compromises for the sake of us building a future together-- like where I would be applying for work, where I would be living, etc. 

    The problem wasn't that I was struggling with whether or not I wanted to compromise, but that he seemed less inclined to compromise for me.  It just seemed more difficult for him to step outside of his comfort zone to make me happy.  And, ultimately, I was feeling that our relationship was getting increasingly one-sided.  It could be because he didn't love me as much as I loved him.  Or it could be because he was just inherently selfish.  In either case, the relationship could not survive. 

    Compromise is good.  It's a necessary part of any relationship.  But it needs to mutual and reciprocated. 

    As for your sister, I wouldn't be surprised if she was in fact giving up more of her life for her boyfriend than he is for her.  (It's often the case that women give up their careers and such for their relationships moreso than men do.)  I would only hope that she feels that it's all worth it.  That he's making her feel loved, happy and respected.  I hope, too, that he would be willing to make sacrifices for her as well. 

  • divine_artist@xanga

    @porcelainx27@xanga - yeah, totally agree. I compromise but not to the extent that i no longer know what I'm doing or forget who I am.

  • BackwoodsSouthernCountryboy@xanga

    I compramise on the least important issues and things bout myself. I don't compamise on the things that define who I am as a person (beliefs/morals/diet/political views/culture) to make my girlfriend happy. And she don't make those kinds of compramises neither.

  • laytexduckie@xanga

    There are some things that you give and take in relationships. Just as long as they are fine with it or learn to live with it.

  • elephant_shoes_143@xanga

    I'm an ex-smoker.  It started out with me not smoking around my then-bf.  The smell bothered him, not to mention secondhand smoke really sucks.  Eventually, I decided it was healthier for ME to quit altogether, but he didn't make me quit.  I decided.  I guess, you can compare that to your sister's meat-eating habits.  As far as the moving to be closer to his family... well, as long as she's not giving up her M.D. career, especially after passing boards.

  • oOBuBBLes711Oo@xanga

    I would give up HALF of what he doesnt like.

  • merridian@xanga

    I don't see anything necessarily wrong with giving up something here and there in a relationship.  How do we know that your sister didn't voluntarily decide to eat like he does when she's around him?  I mean, I don't hear you saying he gave her the ultimatum "no meat or no me".  And it sounds like she still enjoys what she likes to enjoy.  I'm willing to bet that given enough time if being a full time carnivore is something that she can't live without, that will eventually come back into play more prominently and they will deal with it one way or another.  In the meantime, she is exploring herself as well by this experiement (if that's what it could be called).  We do things, and we learn more about ourselves.  She could learn that being vegetarian is not all that crazy as it might sound and take it up full time.  Then again she might decide that living w/out meat is something she just doesn't want to do.  In either case, or in the case that she carries on as is indefinitely, they will deal with it as a couple.  I see nothing wrong with it... unless she has sworn to be a vegetarian to him and is eating meat behind his back.  But even then good intentions may not be enough if being a carnivore is such a strong instinct (and she may have bitten off more than she can chew).  In that case, fess up and then... same thing, they deal with it as a couple.

  • Lunalumi@xanga

    It if she wants to do that it's her choice.

    As a vegetarian though i might want to point out something obvious but that non vegetarians often forget.

    If you kiss a person after dinner and they ate meat or fish, as a vegetarian (especially if you are one because of the love for animals) it's pretty disgusting to taste corpse on your lover's lips/breath.

    Kinda comparable with kissing a smoker when you don't smoke i guess.

  • mijau@xanga

    I would become vegeterian just for my boyfriend, I don't mind it. But I wouldn't and I won't become a whole new person because of him. There are compromises and limits.

  • la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga

    She shouldn't go vegetarian just because he is.  I'm vegetarian, and out of respect, my boyfriend refrains from having many types of meat around me because I am just sick from the smell, but it's not like I ask him to just give it up.  That's silly.

  • ghostwriter72088@xanga

    I have always defined love as someone who you would go to the end of the earth for, but that same someone would make sure you wouldn't have to go that far.


    You have to be able to be yourself around your significant other. and Yes some compromise is nessary, but Compromise is meeting halfway not giving up everything you are. 

  • ghostwriter72088@xanga

    @Lunalumi@xanga -  Good point, my boyfriend was a chainsmoker when I met him. However I didn't realize how bad it was until we kissed after he smoked.


    However even though he still takes a puff once in a while hes trying to quit. he went from almost a pack a day to one a day in a few months.


    Our kisses are much better now and he's healthier for it.


    I"m not a full on Vegeterian, but I do like my veggies way more than my meat (even then I usually eat fish).


    So compromise can be good,but don't change your personality bc of someone

  • Mitsuye@xanga

    I think it is okay to have a certain amount of compromising in relationships, but I don't think it has to get too extreme. I would never renounce something I really loved for an SO, unless it was obviously harming my own life or it was illegal. If I really love something, and I know it isn't hurting myself or those around me, then I will continue to do it until I decide otherwise. If my SO doesn't like the things I do because of some weakness of his, then he can kiss my ass! Haha. (And vice versa, of course.)

  • leaflesstree@xanga

    there's a difference between compromising for the sake of love and lying to yourself and the person you're with (and everyone around you). first off, he shouldn't MAKE her eat no meat around him. he has to live in the real world and deal with the fact that not everyone makes the same choices he does. if she wants to not eat meat around him, then that's okay, but if he's making her do it, that's not okay.

    secondly, does he know that after he leaves she scarfs down meats? if he doesn't she's lying to him. she's making herself into someone else around him and someone else when she's not. as someone pointed out above, how long does she expect to be able to continue doing this? if they live together, is she gonna run out to burger king at 3am cuz she's craving a burger?

    if he really loves her, he should accept that she eats meat. that's his compromise. if she really loves him, she should accept that he doesn't, and be willing to make a couple of compromises, like not eating as much. it's got to balance out equally.

  • Never_go_quietly@xanga

    2 things I've learned about relationships:


    1) NEVER depend on them for anything


    2) NEVER change your life for them


    I understand that every relationship requires sacrifices and give-and-take, but doing something life-altering for someone who may not be around for long just doesn't make sense.

  • AnswerGuy@xanga

    In my brother's case, yeah... it requires him to renounce all kinds of things.. but that's cause he's a lost individual with no self identity. lol. j/k.. sorta. It's inevitable that one person will rub off on the other. One of my ex's didn't like Dr. Pepper till she met me. Another didn't understand the beauty of a med-rare ribeye till she met me. House music... all of the ex's like it now. Likewise, I have a greater appreciation for shopping with women. It's not that we und up renouncing our "ideals" or whatever... we just change our taste. Now if your sister is a vegitarian solely becuase he won't let her eat meat... well... that's a whole different story. Maybe she's vegitarian because it makes her body feel better or she just really likes vegetables now. Ain't nothing wrong with that...

    ...but I wil say that there are just certain vegitarians out there that should really knock it off with the preaching. They're just as bad as bible thumpers. I hope she's not like that for your family's sake.

  • luckylakhi

    I am a vegetarian ( for environmental reasons) but I would never force anyone else to change, however, if my SO decided to become vegetarian for me it would show that he is committed to our bond and to me, also it would show that he respects my morals.  I, reciprocally, would have to show that I respect him just as much.  

  • azna_gurl@xanga

    I can see how dating a vegetarian means she won't eat meat in front of
    him. Maybe she is just being polite and doesn't want to feel
    uncomfortable or make him feel disgusted. I think this is ok only if he
    knows that she does eat meat but doesn't around him out of respect.
    Otherwise, it's compromising. It doesn't matter because if she is with
    him for a while, she will end up eating meat in front of him.

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