Thursday, 18 September 2008

  • Follow-Up - I'm In Love With My Gay BFF

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    Early last week, my boyfriend and I officially (as well as mutually) broke up. It has taken a lot of stress away about having feelings for someone else, but as a lot of people said, I really don't want my best friend to be a rebound. I respect him more than that.

    Late last week, my best friend and I were talking about something. He said, "Oh yeah, how did that come up? That's right...we were talking about you." I got pretty paranoid, of course; why would he be talking with other people about me? He refused to tell me and consistently changed the subject.

    Things continued as normal, but I kept hinting that I wanted to know. Last night, we hung out for a while because his boyfriend was gone, and I finally decided I was going to get this out in the open. I had been struggling, as you know, to tell him how I felt about him because I was afraid he didn't know.

    He'd mentioned to his friends that I was single now, and they apparently told him, "Here's your chance!" They were attempting to convince him to break up with his boyfriend and date me. I was surprised - apparently there is a lot more that goes on in those guy talks that I don't know about! I asked him what his reason was for not doing this.

    He told me it is because of where he is right now, and if he had been single a year ago, he would have tried to take me away from my boyfriend. He also told me that he doesn't think it would be fair if I were the "experiment" girl if he doesn't end up liking girls after all.

    I told him that I didn't think his boyfriend was good enough for him. I know he can be happier, and I think he knows it too. I would be more than willing to be that experiment, because I know that...if it is just the sex he doesn't like...we can always go back to being friends. That is something I could handle. I also told him that I can't help but have the feelings that I do for him, but I am his friend first, and would not do anything to ruin that.

    So, overall, I am extremely happy. The feelings that I HOPED he had are there, and he knows that I feel the same. He is still my best friend, and I don't have to be uncomfortable. Hopefully one day something can happen but until then, there is nothing better than a strong friendship

Comments (68)

  • asrial86@xanga

    That's good :) I suppose I'm in a similar situation except a little different... the guy isn't gay.  BUT I do understand being attracted to that type of guy (oh Neil Patrick Harris!!!) and having those feelings. 

    It's good to hear that you got them out, wishing and hoping for a while can be really draining.

  • cokeaddict@xanga

    i truly hope everything works out for the best.  g'luck!!

  • porcelainx27@xanga

    I think you're deluding yourself. "He told me it is because of where he is right now, and if he had been single a year ago, he would have tried to take me away from my boyfriend."

    People who say these things, are just trying to be kind in saying that "it's not going to happen".

    Honey, he is gay. People don't just wake up one day and go, "I'm tired of being gay, because I've met an amazing girl". It just doesn't happen.


    You're degrading yourself by "willing to be the experiment girl". You are essentially giving yourself up as a lab rat, a piece of meat, something to be used and then thrown away if it doesn't take his fancy.

    "I told him that I didn't think his boyfriend was good enough for him. I know he can be happier, and I think he knows it too." You can think that, you're entitled to think what you want. But again, you are deluding yourself. If he knew he could be happier with you, or anyone else, he wouldn't still be with his boyfriend.

    However, I am glad  to hear that you value your friendship with him above all else.

  • awokenfatality@xanga

    @porcelainx27@xanga - Sexuality is much more than, and surely more complicated. Some people may even say that not everyone is 100% straight or gay. There are couples out there that the man is gay and yet is married to a women that they love so much more. The things is, friends, and surely best friends don't go around giving each other hints and playing games. They are direct and tell you what's up. Especially guys. If it was a co-worker or a peer saying this, then yes, but he is not, it is more deeply rooted.

  • porcelainx27@xanga

    @awokenfatality@xanga - Why would a gay man marry a woman out of love? Why would a gay man, who is attracted to men, marry a woman? That's like saying a straight man would marry another man because they are capable of "loving them so much more". It isn't like a preference, they don't pick and choose when they feel like it.

    Gay men who marry women tend to continue gay relationships behind that woman's back. It used to be that they married women because they wanted children, and this was of course at a time where IVF treatment did not exist, and homosexuality was viewed very negatively.


    Now, with gay marriage being legal in most countries, I don't see why a gay man would marry a woman. I'm sorry, but I think it's very naive to think that it is perhaps because they are "capable of loving that woman so much more".


    No offense meant of course, just my view on things!

    I do agree that sometimes, people can love someone who is outside of their sexual orientation. However, I don't personally think it could ever be anything romantic.

    I also agree in thinking that this "best friend", is leading her on, messing with her feelings and isn't being fair.

  • hkg_phx@xanga

    Wow, that is good news.
    Take it slow and see where it goes...

  • organic_idiot@xanga

    I think sexual orientation is something that isn't completely recognized and understood. Sexuality is so vast that it's pretty ridiculous to tie it down to either "gay" or "straight". Sex (and love for that matter) isn't a two way street. There are MANY different roads.


    For instance, I find myself sexually attracted to women occasionally... But I am not romantically attracted. I would never consider dating a woman. Apparently, the vast majority of straight women feel the same.


    If someone is going to say you either like girls or you like guys... then are we simply going to discredit bisexuality? I think it's a pretty narrow-minded point of view to think that love is all about gender. It completely transcends that. It's about the individual.


    However, I have to agree with porcelianx27 on some level. Whether love is sexually oriented or not... physical attraction does come into play and if this gay guy friend of yours isn't as attracted to women as he is to men, that can cause some problems.


    I think some women have what I've heard called a Cinderella Complex. We like the tall, dark, handsome and shady characters. We think we can change them, "fix" them. In your case, you want to change this boy into being a heterosexual. But you have to think about things for the long wrong. Will this be helping either one of you? Will this help or hurt your friendship?


    I've been going through a very similiar problem... The only difference being that the boy is in a heterosexual relationship. We've been best friends for years, and when he broke up with his girlfriend, we "got together" for a bit (he was away at college at the time... so there wasn't much we could do aside from texting and such). He had a fear that he would go back to his girlfriend (which he eventually did). I kept telling him that he wasn't going to hurt me... that that wouldn't hurt me. That I would understand. Lo and behold, it's the complete opposite.


    Porcelainx27 is right, dear. You're deluding yourself. You are more than likely going to get hurt. If he truly only likes men... he won't change for you. You need to respect both yourself and him and understand that.


    Even still, best of luck.


    Peace&love,
    Brooke.

  • Dustin_wind@xanga

    @porcelainx27@xanga - There are no rules for who you love, he can still love who he chooses. The way I see it, this guy can't keep his mind off of her, and it is nobody's place to tell her what to do. Ultimately the decision is still hers to make.  Even though dating a gay guy is a stretch, if the love is there, then it shouldnt matter, and he would be just as good a lover as any other straight guy on the planet. If she wants to take the chance, let that be her decision.


    It is plainly obvious she loves him, and will not care if she's going to wind up being the "lab rat" for this guy. Worst comes to worst, they date, but break up because the guy finds out he is really more attracted to men, but they stay best friends. She really has nothing to lose. They're already best friends, and if they date, I'm happy for them. Love is love, and no matter who it is, it doesnt change.

  • mystic_sapphire@xanga

    Nothing better than a happy ending :)

  • awokenfatality@xanga

    @porcelainx27@xanga - I'm not saying that it's a preference because I know it's not. I'm just stating that it has happened and it is in fact very weird and I wouldn't be surprised if the guy would have such relationships behind the women's back. Just that when you think you have something down the world manages you to suprise you again. Everything that we percieve is a theory, nothing is set. Even gravity is a theory.


    Don't worry I didn't take anything into offense, I hope you don't either.
  • DarkLordPenguin@xanga

    None of us know the situation better than those involved. He could be gay and just be foolishly messing with her feelings out of a semiconscious desire to get out of his bad relationship, or he could be confused/bi and this could work out. In any case, I think its great that they were open and honest with one another, and I hope that whatever the nature of their relationship, that things go well for them both. Just talk, a lot, and move slowly! Make sure things feel right for the both of you!

  • Never_go_quietly@xanga

    @organic_idiot@xanga - 


    "Sexuality is so vast that it's pretty ridiculous to tie it down to either "gay" or "straight". Sex (and love for that matter) isn't a two way street. There are MANY different roads."


    "I think it's a pretty narrow-minded point of view to think that love is all about gender. It completely transcends that. It's about the individual."


    I completely agree. :)

  • LovelyDesi89@xanga

    Congratulations. I'm glad you're happy.

  • jenvelandres@xanga

    congratulations..i hope what you feel for each other will blossom even more.. 

  • BackwoodsSouthernCountryboy@xanga

    I believe that if any "gay" person ever has sex/dates somebody of the oposite sex...they'd get over that gay foolishness and realize that bein straight is not only right, but, normal and the natural way to go and that "gayness" is the xact oposite of that.

  • WifeOfAGayHusband@xanga

    @BackwoodsSouthernCountryboy@xanga -


    I think that's a very broad generalized statement, and unfortunatly not true. I can see where you might think that and obviously someone who doesn't agree with homosexuality might come to that conclusion. Well sadly if that were the case there would be so many gay individuals who are not misserable because they're gay and a lot less who are shunned by family. If sex solved everything there would be a lot less hurt in this world, don't you think? I know people who are gay who have dated/slept with the opposite sex and unfortunatly it's not quite that black and white.

  • BackwoodsSouthernCountryboy@xanga

    @WifeOfAGayHusband@xanga -I was taught that homosexuality is a choice and that people ain't born bein gay. I know several "gay" people who were with the oposite sex for most of their lives then just out of the blue...bacame "gay".  So, I know that bein "gay" people ain't born that way. Besides, bein "gay" ain't natural, normal or healthy. I was also taught that even havin "gay" thoughts and/or tendacies is a big, big, big sin and that you'll go to Hell if ya have them specially if ya act on them. That's how most Christans see the issue...or the ones I go to church with do.

  • WifeOfAGayHusband@xanga

    @BackwoodsSouthernCountryboy@xanga - 


    I get that, but there isn't a rule book for when you can finally realize you're gay. No one decides out of the blue to make their lives harder and to be hated by certain people. You're also not gay, so in no way are you authorized to tell someone you know it isn't a choice and that they're going to hell based on beliefs they may not even share. So taking the bible out of equation, because using a religious text in a debate is useless when the other person doesn't share that same outlook, why else is it "wrong" in your eyes?

  • BackwoodsSouthernCountryboy@xanga

    @WifeOfAGayHusband@xanga - Okay, let's see. If people was born "gay"...we'd never have no kids. If "gayness" is natural....the human race would die off cause havin sex with somebody whos the same sex as you are can't produce kids. Therefor...bein "gay" is bein a deviant. Plus, God don't make people be "gay" cause it ain't in His design. The frase "God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve" is true. It's still wrong. And I opose the gay movement with everything that's in me.

  • WifeOfAGayHusband@xanga

    @BackwoodsSouthernCountryboy@xanga - Okay not ALL people are born the same way....that's silly. Not everyone can possibly be born gay, it's a given. Some people are gay and some people are not gay. It's not a good way to justify that it's not natural.


    The bible says women are inferior to men, and we know it's not true. The bible also said it's okay to beat your wife, and if you do that now you get arrested for domestic assault. I don't think anyone can reasonably say that beating your wife is a natural everyday occurance. You know what else isn't natural? Heart transplants, life support, tv's, microwaves, the breeding of certain animals. All not natural things. That Adam and Steve thing is old and so is being closed minded about thinking that being gay is a choice. I don't care if you don't agree with it, just understand that it's silly to think that people choose that. Numbers and facts speak otherwise.

  • BackwoodsSouthernCountryboy@xanga

    @WifeOfAGayHusband@xanga - Totally got the Bible wrong. The Bible don't say that women are inferior to men. It says that the man is the head of the family and that the wife is to submit to her husband as bein the head of the family. While it don't come right out and say it...it implies that the husband is to seek his wife's opinion on the major decisions. Also the Bible never, never, never nowhere in it says that it is okay to beat your wife. How does heart transplants, microwaves and tvs relate to homosexuality not bein natural??? The "numbers and facts" are asembled by liberals who suport the "gay movement". The people wo gather them even admit that they're liberals and that they support homosexuality. So, what they say about it can't be trusted. But then...I never trust liberals. Don't think that most of em won't know the truth if it came up and hit em in the face. Yeah, I'm a die hard conservative. So, the way that I see it...you have your views and I have mine and we ain't gonna make each other think that our views are wrong. While you think that bein gay is okay and I see it as bein wrong, sinful and deviant action/lifestyle...that don't mean that we can't respect each other and just agree to disagree about this subject.

  • bellydancegirl8@xanga

    @BackwoodsSouthernCountryboy@xanga - So when my fiance sticks it up my ass and I really like it...

    Does that make him gay or me gay?

    Or are we still straight?

    How about if he doesn't cum.

    Oh, I had a girlfriend before does that mean I'm going to hell or I just like to lick pussy?

    PS Do you think God likes it in the ass?

    Would that make him gay?

  • TEDDIES_ONMYPJ@xanga

    that's pretty cool.


    be his first and only girl! lols.


    okay, it sounds pretty lame but i m happy for ya!


    XD

  • BackwoodsSouthernCountryboy@xanga

    @bellydancegirl8@xanga - Okay, first...when a guy sticks it in a girl's butt...it ain't bein gay. As far as bein with a girl before then bein with a guy now...ya sound alittle confused. And God don't have no kind of sex....he don't need to cause all he has to do is speak and it happens. Also, every Bible I got says the same thing....stickin it in somebody's butt...guy or girl....is still sodomy and that is a sin. The God that I know....don't say that bein gay is okay....in fact, He says that it's a sin and that gay people will go to Hell unless they repent and turn from their sins (He also says that everybody has to do that too). Me bein gay and in the closet??????? Now, let's get this strait, I ain't never been with a guy and I don't get turned on by guys. I only think girls are atractive and the thout of 2 guys havin sex and 2 girls havin sex makes me wanna puke. That is just so gross. Your "gaydar" most certainly don't work right if ya think that a straight guy is gay. Guess that when somebody has had a gay relationship...they think that everybody is gay too but are just to scared to admit. Callin God gay is insultin too.

  • RamblingAngels@xanga

    This guy could be bisexual. If he is, I am sure he knows it.

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