Tuesday, 05 August 2008

  • Meeting His Boyfriend Out of The Blue

    This is a guest blog submitted by sleepyhead.

    My former housemate recently threw a party for his birthday - it was great to see all my old buddies from school.  Most of the guys there had brought their girls, but one of the guys brought his boyfriend.

    None of us really knew how to react to the situation because he'd never told us he was gay. We kind of ignored him the whole night because nobody knew how to react to the news...or lack of news.

    A few days ago, he IMed me about that night, wanting to know why no one would return his calls. It was obvious to me, but I couldn't tell him, so I lied about everyone being so busy. 

    He went on to tell me about his new BF. It was weird to talk to him about it, because he always got the girls in college and now...he was with a guy. I couldn't really say I was happy for him - I mean the guy totally betrayed us by not letting us know what was going on. He just came out of nowhere and decided to introduce his new BF to all of his buddies on the same day. 

    When I decided to bring it up with him, he told me he was scared to come out to all of us and thought that we would react in a negative way.  In fact, he didn't want to bring it up at all, but his BF made him. 

    My friends and I aren't homophobic - I think that our friend just popping out of nowhere with a guy kind of shocked us. I told him it would take some time for me to get used to him with a guy. I don't know if I'll ever be able to picture him with anyone but a girl!

    None of the other guys have talked to him yet because they think he should have told them before he brought his BF over.

    What else could we have done? It was out of the blue. Is there anything he could have done to make it easier on us?

Comments (96)

  • tialoca_talks@xanga

    um...grow up..he betrayed you by not letting you know what was going on??  so people have to tell you everything (especially things they might be struggling with to get a handle on themself) or you are betrayed?  and you say you aren't homophobic, but it will take time to get used to him with a guy....with the reception he is receiving, no wonder he never told you guys...you ask if there was anything he could have done to make it easier on you;  how about you guys being real friends and trying to make it easier on him?  sheesh...

  • Halfy79@xanga

    Why is it all about YOU and how he should make YOU feel comfortable?  Did he really have to warn you?  I mean, I don't have to explain myself everytime I bring a significant other over to a party because I'm straight.... and I don't think gay people should be expected to explain themselves either!!


    If my best friends came over with someone of the same sex... I'd be surprised but I'm positive I'd be fine with it.  Saying that you ignored your friend and need time to get used to it sounds to me like you're at least a little homophobic.


    Grow up.  Get over yourself.

  • Edgebreak@xanga

    Geez people.  He was either your friend and you can accept him as that.  Or you guys really weren't his friends at all.  He had a secret, and when put in a position to actually let you know who he was, you all shunned him.  You weren't betrayed by him because he likes guys, you all betrayed him by ignoring him and avoiding him.  You are by the very nature of this reaction, on some level homophobic.  Sorry for the news or lack there of. 


  • Cest_LaxVie@xanga

    @tialoca_talks@xanga - 
    i totally agree. you should've been more accepting and you could've said something like "why didn't you tell us earlier?" but since you all just ignored him, you all actually PROVED HIM RIGHT, because he did get a negative response from you guys.

  • asugarnspices@xanga

    I don't feel he betrayed anyone.  I mean, it would have been okay had some guy showed up with some girl you hadn't met before but because it was a guy he betrayed everyone?  That is lame.  I feel no one should HAVE to give out information reguarding sexual orientation... who really cares?  If you are really his friend, you accept him for who he is... not who he has a relationship with.  Maybe he really did find out who his friends are.

  • JandJinJapan@xanga

    I disagree with tailoca_talks and Cest_LaxVie:  I think he was wrong to not tell his FRIENDS about the boyfriend and the fact he was gay.  It definitely would have been easier for his friends than it was to just show up with a boyfriend out of the blue.  I think I would have reacted the same, but would have at least taken time to talk to them both, to get to knwo the boyfriend, at the party at the very least, but I surely would have made it a point to talk to my friend later, and ask him why he didn't tell me and the others in the beginning.  After all, if they are friends, they should be able to share things freely.  THere are good times to tell friends about secrets, changesi n lifestyles, and other personal matters.  A male friend showing up at a party out of the blue with a boyfriend, thereby letting his friends know he is homosexual for the first time is not the proper place to do so, nor deos it show that this homosexual man was truly a friend to sleepyhead and the others.  It has nothing to do with shunning this friend, nothing to do with proving this friend's fears right:  it has everything to do with tact.  It wasn't just about him, as sleepyhead stated that his other friends were shocked as well.  This has nothing to do with being selfish, but being almost back-stabbed.  Tactfully, and tastefully, ti would have been better for this homosexual friend to tell his friends who were going to be at the party about his new lifestyle, specifically so that they wouldn't be shocked when he brought his boyfriend.  Just brining him out of the blue with no notice is understandably shocking.

  • TheCheshireGrins@xanga

    I don't think he necessarily betrayed you or your friends. I have to imagine that coming out of the closet is a difficult process and instead of you worrying about how your friend could have made his coming out easier on you and your friends, maybe you should worry about how to make him comfortable.

  • shadow720@xanga

    you answered your own question. the situation would have been smoother if he told his close friends about it.

  • MaximMan@xanga

    Reverse the story:
    "I didn't know how to come out to my friends b/c  I was afraid at how they'd react. I bit the bullet and my bf convinced me to dive in headfirst and just introduce us as a couple to the entire group at once. No apologies.


    Now, my "friends" have all but shunned me out of the group. I feel so betrayed by them. I knew I should've just kept my mouth shut about this."


    how does that feel? You may feel betrayed b/c of his insecurity, but you ALL betrayed him by confirming it.

  • beachblondie711@xanga

    @MaximMan@xanga - your last paragraph says it all. i wholeheartedly agree.



    I find it hard to believe if this is your reaction now that your reaction would have been much different had he come to you ahead of time. He took a big risk and opened up to you, just not on YOUR timeframe. And I think you probably made him regret that decision.

  • sassy_soul_sistah@xanga

    Wow.  The response of you and your friends seems pretty close-minded, and definitely smells of at least a hint of homophobia.  When you have friends they will not always do things the way you want them to, but part of being a friend is supporting them and just rolling with it.

  • Mitsuye@xanga

    Just get over it and accept it. Maybe those at the party should have made an effort to warm up to him and his boyfriend. How would you feel if it was you? In my opinion, he didn't betray you or your friends at all. How can it be wrong that he didn't say he had a boyfriend? I just don't see the logic that he was wrong. Creating a double standard like that is ridiculous. 

  • UnVolume@xanga

    Coming out of the closet in that way when everyone else thinks the guy is straight is pretty big. He didn't tell you because he was scared and that was understandable but maybe he should have at least come out before hand, and then brought his BF over to introduce him. However, that is not the case, he did what he thought was best and I can respect that. I don't think it was a good idea to ignore your friend during the party and to ignore his calls afterwards when now would be a good time to talk.

  • john@xanga

    @MaximMan@xanga - Is that really fair?

    I agree that Sleepyhead's friends are probably overly focusing on how their gay friend didn't come out to them (rather than focusing on the difficult position their friend is in, having to come out to a group of close friends).  Still, this was a very honest and open post about an issue the author is still struggling with.  I think Sleepyhead deserves more credit than you are giving him.

  • SnowGlobe2954@xanga

    I can see where you're coming from—that must have been a shock. But now that the shock is over, I think it's important that you accept this wholeheartedly. Maybe throw a party or have a boys' night out and invite your friend and his boyfriend. Take the opportunity to get to know the boyfriend. I think it's important that you make it clear to your friend that you
    respect him, still want him as your friend, and appreciate his honesty.

    Coming out is something very personal for a gay person. They need to do it in their own way at their own time, even if it's harder for their friends. Coming out involves so much uncertainty. Your friend had no idea how you would react. He was probably scared that you might be judgmental, so maybe for him, having his boyfriend by his side made it less of a threat.

  • john@xanga

    @SnowGlobe2954@xanga - I completely agree, it would be a great gesture if all the guys took out their friend and his bf for drinks/dinner!

  • beachblondie711@xanga

    @john@xanga - sure it's fair :)


    I agree that the poster is being honest and open and probably loves his friend. And I think he is getting a lot of flack (guilty... I'm sorry) that he may not deserve.


    But I think it would be UNFAIR not to think about the other side of the story. While MaximMan's was fabricated... it is possibly fairly accurate. I think it is VERY fair to flip the coin and see things from sleepyhead's friend's perspective.

  • MaximMan@xanga

    @john@xanga - I'm not taking away (nor am I giving him) credit for the raw & honest post. I'm exemplifying Halfy79's et al, point about it seeming like it's all about ME, ME, ME. I think perspective would really serve well to help him have an "ah-ha I've never thought about it that way" moment.

  • docsfancyskip@xanga

    I think that you guys shouldn't had ignored him at the party. I'm sure that did nothing but make him feel akward, and really re-evaluate his friendships with you all.


    I would say it's time to grow up and put the big boy undies on. If you were so shocked, are you sure you don't have a bigger problem with it than you realize?


    I'm sure you know what you need to do to make things a little better...good luck!

  • john@xanga

    @MaximMan@xanga - Yah, I mean I obviously agree that his friend's perspective is super important, and that his feelings should be the main focus.

    I do think that his friend handled the coming out in a less than optimal way.  Does he get a complete free pass because coming out is hard?  Sure, I'll give him one.  But I won't give one to you for putting 100% of this on Sleepyhead!  Especially when he is being so open and honest in a blog post.

    Still, I think we all agree - the focus now should be on his friend's feelings.  I hope this story has a happy ending!

  • nimbusthedragon@xanga

    WTF...  It's not HIS job to let everyone know how to be comfortable with HIS life.  Grow up, for god'sake. I mean, I understand it might have been a surprise, but if he made the effort to introduce him to you guys, he must have thought that he could trust his friends enough not to react like dicks.  Which, disappointingly, they did, apparently.


    @MaximMan@xanga - I totally agree, and well said.

  • DHSPoet@xanga

    There is no 'easy way' to do it period. When my friend Ryan told me...oh wow was he scared. He thought I was going to abandon him, never be friends with him again, never talk to him. Just, you know, worst case scenario. But he did it because he knew, I was his best friend. And I wasn't going to turn on him.


    Your friend should have gone about it in a DIFFERENT way, not an easier way [since there is none as I said above]. He should have told you all before he brought his boyfriend to the party. He obviously didn't think that through, that just showing up with a boyfriend on hand wasn't going to shock some people and get negative reactions. Then again, you shouldn't have ignored him at the party. Getting to know his boyfriend would have definitely scored you some friends points with him, but can't go back in time now.


    But now that you know, you have to get over the shock that he has a boyfriend. You can't let that consume you - you two are friends. That changes nothing, you're still friends. You need to accept that his ways have changed a little bit. Perhaps you can invite them out for some coffee or something. Or whatever it is that you drink. Get to know him and such. It really can't hurt. Good luck!

  • merridian@xanga

    Let's say he did tell you before the party, how would you have reacted then?  Would your reaction have given him the confidence to come to the party and bring his boyfriend, too?  Or would he have felt rejected enough not to show up at all?


    Just wondering.  I think he did fine doing it the way he did it. 

  • dreamerboi23@xanga

    My question is why would it matter?  If he brought a girl over that he didn't tell you about would you or any of your friends have been as upset?  I don't think so.  So you need some sort of preparation that he is bringing his gay (or possibly bi) BF over?  I think you guys are overreacting to it, unless you are all secretly homophobic and just like to believe otherwise, why would you need to be prepared?  Don't get me wrong, if one of my friends told me/did that at a get together I would be surprised too but I wouldn't treat him or his BF any differently or shun them.  I dunno maybe its because I was born in the Bay Area and homosexuality and bisexuality is nothing new.

    And I think you and your friends' reactions have pretty much confirmed his fears of even doing it.  He DIDN'T want to bring his BF, his BF made him (which is totally understandable).  Instead of being understanding about it and just treating him as a normal person, all of you decided to ignore him for the whole night.  Wow very mature.  I would tell you right now, if my friends did that (and I know they wouldn't) I wouldn't be friends with them anymore until I got some sort of apology.  I hope you guys didn't tell him that was the reason why.  Because as crappy as it is to lose my friends over something stupid like that, if it came down to it I wouldn't need to think about it for a min.  And if he is really your friend, it shouldn't have even been an issue.  Unless unless, you live in a city where they hang homosexual men, then ok maybe.  But as far as I know, I don't think there are any cities in the US that do that.  But hey I could be wrong.  Im not perfect.

  • k_cakes@xanga

    it sounds to me like you and your friends are homophobic.  Bringing his boyfriend was hard enough and then you guys just ignored him all night.  there is no easy way to say, "hey i`m gay now."  and being homosexual all these years must have been confusing for him since you guys saw him with girls all the time.  you and your friends were rude and should apologize but if you aren`t willing to do that, embrace his lifestyle.  or at least leave him alone.

    ... you guys are pansies.

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