Tuesday, 29 July 2008

  • Knight in Shining Armor is Fed Up with His Princess

    This is a guest blog submitted by a Datingish reader.

    "I don't know what to do about him."

    One of my friends has been saying that a lot lately since her fairytale wedding a year ago. You know the drill . . . kisses and hugs galore, lots of cuddling, calling each other a gazillion times a day to say how much they loved each other, etc. Lately, everything is pretty much the same, except there's hardly any cuddling, fewer kisses or hugs and their phone bill is pretty low.

    When they were dating, he was her knight in shining armor; he would take out the trash, make mac 'n' cheese for her 'til she screamed, "No Kraft, noooo!" while they were making love, shield her from the paparazzi, play "this little piggy went to Tiffany's and Macy's" with her, and everything else you would expect a modern knight to do. 



    Guess what she did?  Oh, you know...got a manicure, shopped, shopped some more, got another manicure, had nights out on the town, and oh yeah, shopped. Does this sound like a balanced relationship to you? 

    I love my friend and we've got a lot in common, but we don't share the same views on is how to make a relationship work.  She believes the guy should cater to her needs.

    I've asked her why she thinks a guy should contribute more to a relationship than she should, and she says it's because she was raised to think that way. I don't know how the guys she has been with feel about that, but I know that she hasn't had too many long term relationships, so maybe that's an indication . . .

    Her hubby fell hard from her the moment he saw her, so he was wrapped around her finger from the start.  He started working two jobs a couple of months ago and lately he hasn't been giving her the love she wants. 

    She's not good at dealing with "issues" in her marriage, and I'm afraid that she might get a divorce.  What advice can I give her?  Has anyone been in a relationship with someone who thought it was your responsibility to be his or her personal "servant"?

Comments (59)

  • lorelei@xanga

    If I had a friend like that I would be very blunt with her. I would tell her that she is being selfish and that her boyfriend has given everything for her, including getting a second job, and she has done nothing. That is not a balanced relationship. If she really loves the guy she should get a reality check or shes going to lose the relationship.

    Actually, I do have a friend like that, and instead I just stopped talking to her. I can't handle demanding and selfish people like that in my life.
    -L

  • daeshii@xanga

    Having been divorced, I offer up this piece of advice.  If she's really, truly concerned, then she needs to talk to him.  She also needs to take responsibility for her part of this crumbling kingdom, because a relationship is supposed to be 50/50.  Even 40/60, if that's agreeable to both parties, but no one should do all the catering.


    When's the last time she did something nice for him out of the blue?  Without expecting something in return?  When's the last time she allowed him intimacy that had nothing to do with sex?  Without pouting when he fell asleep cos he's damn tired?  When's the last time she told him how much she appreciated all the things he did for her?


    And how would she feel if he didn't do any of these things for her?


    No one wants to be a doormat, but it sounds like she's wiped her feet on his back plenty of times.


    And OMG, just because she was raised like that doesn't make it right!!  That's an excuse for her behavior that she wouldn't need if she were, in fact, doing right by her partner. 


    *big inhale, big exhale*


    She needs to talk to him, to express her concerns, to listen really listen to his, and work through it.  It's not an overnight then, but divorce is a big frickin' deal.  And if she doesn't learn now, she's going to do it again with the next guy.  And the next. 


    *ahem*  I'm done now.  Hope that helps.

  • Viktorious1@xanga

    Dude must really be smitten and love her to put up with her and continue to soldier on.  I wonder however, is she really pretty and he's homely looking? Perhaps he kinda feel like he's lucky he even have her...


    I dunno...either way, that's a broken relationship and the wobbling wheels are gonna come off soon...

  • k8tthelate@xanga

    give her the book "the care and feeding of husbands" and pray she reads it. if not, I hope the people that 'raised her that way' are willing to take care of her for the rest of her life.

    I wish her husband luck.
  • moritheil@xanga

    I too cry imbalance on this one.  Not sure what to say, though. As The Onion said, "You can't tell someone set in their ways, 'please suddenly rewire yourself to not be an incredible asshole.'"

  • cece121234

    It's funny how in this situation, the man has made all the sacrifices while the woman just sits back. In many cases that I have known, it's usually the other way around. But either way, it's not really good to have an unbalanced relationship. I think your friend's parents may be partly responsible for raising her like that.


    As a friend, the best you can do is suggest to her that she needs to be more caring towards her husband, and try to put herself in his position sometimes in order to see how difficult it is for him to work two jobs and be there for her at the same time. Of course, whether or not she listens is up to her. 


    The problem is really between her and her husband, and if her husband doesn't mind this, then perhaps she doesn't need to change. If the day comes that he does feel that she is being too selfish, then they will have to work things out. If they divorce, then it simply means that neither party was willing to compromise and your friend will probably look for someone who is more willing to cater to her needs (however unreasonable they may be).


    There really isn't a right and wrong here. There will always be people who are more selfish or more selfless than others. As a friend, you can only suggest things, you cannot "force" her or her husband to change. But hopefully, as your friend becomes more mature, she will realize that in marriage, both parties must make sacrifices and put forth reasonable effort.

  • souxie@xanga

    no offense. what a spoiled brat. 

  • OstentatiousEloquence@xanga

    Wait, so why are you friends with this self centered, stuck up brat?

  • Nikolais_apprentice@xanga

    Poor guy.  Makes me want to cook him dinner or something.  Geez.  Wives should honor and respect their husbands.

  • ThatSady_MittGurl@xanga

    She should watch the old Sandra Dee movie, When a Man Answers.


    But I agree.  I've been in 1 sided relationships before, and I've witnessed them... it won't work.  She needs to start putting forth some effort.

  • laytexduckie@xanga

    The point of a relationship is for both sides to contribute evenly, no matter what the contribution may be. It should never be one sided because it is selfish. If only one side is giving and the other side only receives, how would you feel if you were the one giving? Like saying, one person works and the other spends all the money that was earned from the other person.

    Tell her that she needs to contribute something or things that will benefit both of them in the marriage, not just her. If she doesn't, well, karma will soon strike in the appearance of a divorce and, eventually, she'll have to learn to contribute.

  • MysticIndigo@xanga

    My isn't she an adorable little black hole of need?  You do need to be as honest with her as possible:  She needs a very thorough reality check.  Sooner or later, this "knight in shining armor" she initially enchanted is going to drop her by the nearest frog pond and find a "princess" not so caught up in herself.  This is the reverse of how most relationships turn out when there is such a ghastly imbalance; nonetheless, it's still evident that this is not going to work out unless she learns to focus more on his needs than on her next shopping spree.

  • cuzimlexxi@xanga

    she was raised that like that? wth? was she raised by millionaires? if so, then that's what she should've married.

    what was the guy thinking when he married her?!

    my boyfriend always said he doesn't mind a high-maintenance chick... as long as she's the one spending her own money and not his.

    my rule before getting married is to make sure i can stand on my own two feet and my husband can stand on his own. make sure you can be independent before you depend on anyone for your needs.

    growing up in a traditional filipino house, i was raised to cater to my man's needs. NAY! if my boyfriend needs something thats not within my reach, he has 2 legs and 2 arms, he can go get it himself (unless i'm feeling nice).

  • BeOkay@xanga

    It's not really right to expect your guy to do everything for you. Why doesn't SHE work? It's not a crazy concept. it might teach her to have a little human decency and respect towards people.

  • goodgirl_196@xanga

    I don't understand how someone could be in a relationship like that and not give back equally. I think, in my unprofessional opinion of course, that she definitely needs to talk to her husband about what's going on and the two of them (husband and wife) need to figure out a way that they're both giving AND getting what they need. If it goes on with only one giving and the other doing all the receiving it's likely that they will get divorced or grow increasingly miserable together, which no one wants.

  • xiaosnowtenshi@xanga

    I have a friend who acts like that at times. The best thing you could do for her probably is to set her straight before things get out of hand. 

  • tx_daughteroftheking@xanga

    I can't imagine that mindset. I've always believe that while you should give 100%-100% to your marriage, the bible also says to submit to each other in love. I hope that the things I'm doing now will help me to submit and help and love my husband in all I can. 

  • la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga

    Probably the way that she was raised was to expect gentlemanly courtesy of the man.  HOWEVER, if those are her expectations, then she should live up the the similar ideal: she should be a perfectly polished lady who always has his dinner hot and ready when he walks in the door, who will give him a massage or rub his feet when he's tired/had a long day, who will submit to his sexual desires and inner fantasies, who will worship and cherish him, who will appreciate all the hard work he does for her, who will clean and do all the laundry (to his specifications!), and who will gladly bear and raise his children.

    And if she doesn't want to do those things, then she shouldn't expect the "traditional" male equivalent.  After all, for millennia, the women were supposed to do most of the waiting on the men.

  • melsie

    @OstentatiousEloquence@xanga -  She's cool outside of this whole relationship thing.  We've been friends since we were 5.

  • melsie

    @cuzimlexxi@xanga - Her family is pretty wealthy, but she's always dated "average" guys.  Maybe he thought she would change once she settled down.  She is a sweet person, but when it comes to relationships she thinks the world revolves around her.

  • melsie

    @daeshii@xanga - Thanks for the advice.  She did make a birthday cake for him last month, but she begged him to cut back on his work hours the day after his b-day.  It seems like any time she does something out of the goodness of her heart for him, she wants something in return.  She has him whipped pretty bad.  She should be on that Celebrity Boot Camp reality show and let Harvey set her straight.  I've been friends with her for years, and outside of her marriage she is a nice person.

  • hopelessromantic

    Well if she wants the love, she's going to have to give up the stuff so he can stop working two jobs and spend some time with her. If he's working two jobs to support her shopping and manicures, of course he's not going to have time to call her and cuddle and be affectionate. He's going to be tired and start resenting her after a while.

  • akatiegirl

    Servant...well, not exactly.  My last ex relied on me to make any and all decisions.  I was expected to be the strong one, to be the "man" in the relationship while he got to sit back and do his clueless weak-minded thing.

    It was so not cool.

    I don't expect to be catered to.  I like to pull my own weight.  But, hey, when it happens, I don't knock it.

    There's definitely a princess mentality going around women these days (and, while I try not to give into it, despite wanting to pully my own weight in a relationship, sometimes I fall into that trap, too.)  They're supposed to find someone who will give them everything they want, until they find out that this isn't all it's cracked up to be.  How boring is it to get everything you want?  And how can you ever appreciate it?  ah well.  That's a soapbox rant for another time or another blog, I suppose.

    Great post, as usual

    -Katie

  • eternal_dreaming@xanga

    Why is she married in the first place?! It sounds like she's not mature enough. She should consider herself lucky to have a guy like him. I can't believe he's lasted this long. Sucks that they're married now. Personally, I'm not a fan of divorce. I hope they are able to talk things out 'cause that's the only way I see things working out. If not, I'm afraid to say.. this marriage is down the toilet.

  • shadow720@xanga

    she needs to mature and realize the world does not revolve around her. welcome to the real world, next up...divorce.

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